Subj: Not about money
Date: 97-02-12 12:07:49 EST
From: Pat (Crowe)
To: Petlady
CC: Trooper, Hhhana
Hi guys. Well another day and the insanity continues. If I
see one more TV program with Petrocelli, I’m going to barf. The plaintiffs are not in
this for the money, but after the 10 days are up Gelblum is going to OJ’s home to
pick up the furniture, pictures on the wall etc. What a bunch of BS. They don’t care
about the money but they are going to go to the house in which OJ’s kids live and
take the furniture etc.
I have to believe someone (OJ’s legal beagles?) will
come up with some way to stop them. OJ says this whole thing is "NOT OVER" I
tend to agree with him. I guess we’ll just have to wait and see. I was speaking to my
husband this morning about MF and just realized what else the initials could stand for....
I know that’s gross but it struck me as funny and I thought, "right on."
We’re having a bit of a snowstorm here today. It was supposed to be a few flurries.
But then it is still February up here in the cold country. Have to expect anything, just
like in the OJ case. Enough for now. Just to keep in touch. Keep the faith. —Pat
(Crowe)
Subj: Re Not about money
Date: 97-02-12 15:06:53 EST
From: Hhhana
To: Pat
CC: Connie, Trille, Trooper
Hey Pat — It sure puts the lie to it, doesn’t it?
Haven’t seen Petro today, and plan to try to avoid it. Did see F. Lee this morning on
the Today Show. He’s a smart guy. Going to have to go back to work tomorrow,
can’t avoid it. Need to get some money made. Been out for almost 2 weeks with a
terrible case of flu or something that acts like it. Seems the only answer to this thing
is to find a killer. I like the MF (by the way, I spotted the humor right away, so
appropriate) theory, but somebody is going to have to dig up some information.
Bailey is still working on it with an investigator. Hope
they can come up with something. I know it’s hard after all this time, but
nothing’s impossible. Truth usually wins out. Keep your eyes and ears open.
—Hhhana
Subj: Judgment
Date: February 11, 1997
From: Trille
To: Pat (Crowe)
CC: Judge, Trooper, Hhhana. Petlady, Fresa, Dable
Hi, guys, I couldn’t connect since yesterday
afternoon, and boy, was that frustrating. I had like a 200 e-mail mess waiting. I am just
flabbergasted at the new verdict. I heard that the plaintiffs can start collecting
immediately. Surely that isn’t correct. I lost a lawsuit in a civil court case for
$1200, and it took awhile before the person was able to access my bank account. I did have
to provide discoveries and financial info, but I was able to close my account and the
person died. She only won the suit because I was in the emergency room at the hospital at
the time and couldn’t contact the court.
The point is, when you have minor dependents, you have
right to more assets than if you don’t...The plaintiffs have a few days to START
REQUESTING MORE INFORMATION FROM OJ, but OJ still can appeal, at least the amount of the
verdict which is excessive even for California. Then, hopefully, when Fujifoofoo comes to
his senses and reduces it, OJ can then post bond on a far lesser amount and appeal the
whole verdict on the grounds:
1. Bias on the part of judge.
2. Allowing in lie detector.
3. Hearsay rules not followed (shelter woman) and
Nicole’s so-called diary (who keeps a diary in a safe? I mean, a diary is something
you write in most days and you keep it near you to write in, not in a safe. Obviously
Nicole was planning to use it to get more money out of OJ and pretend he had violated his
letter not to hit Nicole ever again).
4. All black potential jurors dismissed and only black
juror dismissed (and also jury tampering by the only black juror by LADA, and possible
jury tampering by alternate juror who claimed system rigged in selection of alt.)
5. New information of FBI malfeasance, lab results tampered
with or not done properly as well as "shoe expert" not acting properly.
6. Gag order not complied with, many witnesses violated gag
order, Ron Shipp, Vannatter, Lange, Fred, Denise, media persons who, while not witnesses,
also violated spirit of gag order.
7. As in the Sam Shepard case, OJ not able to get a fair
trial due to excessive negative publicity.
8. Extreme hostility to defendant by police, DA, witnesses,
court system, court employees.
9. Police misconduct and tampering and sloppiness.
10. Police perjury by several officers, etc. —Trille
Subj: Your e-mail
Date: Wednesday, February 12, 1997 6:52 PM
From: Hhhana
To: Judge
CC: Trooper, Trille, Pat, Petlady, Connie
Judge— I’m the only one here who can’t print
e-mail messages; I have to try to remember all the good points you bring to us. By the
way, have you made it to posting on the CTV threads yet? They are up a bit, then back down
a bit. Hopefully, everything will be OK tonight and everybody can hop on board. Glad you
took a little time to read some of the past posts. They tell a lot.
Again, I don’t think OJ Simpson killed anyone, but I
do have a problem with some of the evidence. There are still questions for me. I find it
amazing that those who are convinced he is a killer, don’t seem to have any problems
with the conduct of the police officers or, for that matter, the state. It seems it should
have been obvious to all that there were things that were not only improper, but
suspicious in their actions.
However, that aside, you’re absolutely correct, OJ
took on the legal system and was found not guilty in one of the most unpopular verdicts of
all time. I believe the verdict was the correct one. I am also bothered by those who are
always so quick to point out that he was not found innocent, but instead, was only found
not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
After having shared the "kiss and slap" method
with you, I now want to talk about the "good for the goose, good for the gander"
theory. Of course, we know jurors only have two choices, guilty or not guilty. Innocent is
not an option. If those who are so quick to point out the difference were charged with a
crime they did not commit, and were acquitted, they would be quick to say they were found
to be innocent. But, it’s not good enough for OJ Simpson? No, no, I don’t think
so.
I would love to talk about the 2 verdicts, but I’ll
have to save it for part 2. I want to just make a point about the whispers in the wind. As
soon as the media reported the murders, immediately little whispers of domestic discord
started to surface. Again, the media fanned the flames, stories proved, and unproved,
brought before the public to vilify OJ. It sold stories and papers, increased TV ratings,
and the feeding frenzy started. I watched OJ go from hero to zero overnight. Now, less
than zero after this civil finding of responsibility. A judge who told both OJ and his
attorneys he thought he was guilty, seating a jury that expressed during voire dire that
they believed he was probably guilty (at least 60% expressed this opinion), limiting the
evidence and on and on, and on.
Now the California legislature will be considering another
Simpson law to assure the Browns custody of the children. Judge, I know I got way afield
with all of this. I think the bottom line is, come to the threads; your opinions will be
challenged, but truth is truth and I believe even if it doesn’t prevail, it needs to
be said. Good to hear from you. —Hhhana
Subj: Re: Re Your e-mail
Date: 97-02-12 22:32:17 EST
From: Pat (Crowe)
To: Matlock, Hhhana
CC: Trooper, Trille, Petlady
Hi guys— Wasn’t that something about Fred
Goldman. He would trade his punitive damage award for a signed confession from O.J. Even
if he was guilty, he’d be crazy to sign one as he’d still owe a hell of a lot of
money. OJ of course said why would he sign one when he’s not guilty of anything. This
is the weirdest case. Looks like Geraldo will be into the JonBenet Ramsey case now.
That’s what he started with tonight. Oh, I forgot- he also had the jury foreman from
the punitive phase on. I don’t like to bash the jury but this guy seems like
he’s one pickle short of a jar. Geraldo also had a clip on (I think from his morning
show) of Denise Brown and a female juror. The juror took one look at Denise and started to
cry. Geraldo said it was the most touching thing he’d ever seen. Yeah sure. Well
enough for now —Pat (Crowe).
Subj: Re: Not about money
Date: 97-02-12 13:30:27 EST
From: Trille
To: Hhhana
CC: Pat, Connie, Trooper
Hi guys— I don’t watch the news anymore; I will
read the papers and just skip the OJ articles. I don’t see that even finding the real
killers will stop these people. I don’t think they really care WHO KILLED NICOLE AND
RON, THEY STILL WANT TO HURT OJ, NO MATTER WHAT THE TRUTH IS. Of course, we care, but even
if the killer(s) confessed right now, it wouldn’t stop the plaintiffs from taking
everything away from OJ. I wonder if he declared bankruptcy, it would at least slow it
down, then the attorneys would get first go at the proceeds, that is OJ’s earthly
goods. OJ does, if fact, still owe the criminal trial lawyers.
One thing this case has done, is to turn a lot of Jews
against OJ. Fred is responsible for this, and that is a terrible shame because,
historically, Jews have been liberal socially conscious people who at least at first
helped the Civil Rights Movement. But when you watch the tabloid shows, most of the most
rabid haters, Geraldo, Grodin, and many of the lawyers and "experts" that come
on the shows are Jews. I think they have been brainwashed, too.
Dershowitz told in his book that he received the most hate
mail and threats in his entire career, even or esp. from his own synagogue. And, of
course, that is what turned Shapiro against OJ as well, the fact that people turned
against him wherever he went, and Shapiro had no experience with hate. Johnny Cochran is
used to hate, so are Scheck and Neufeld, but for a celebrity-lover like Shapiro, it was
more than he could take.
What this case has done to society, that is the hate was
there already, but this case has allowed it to take over. People feel it is politically
correct to hate OJ and, by association, all blacks except for right-wing sellouts like
Clarence Thomas and that guy Watts who is a Republican House member. I am reading Carl
Rowan’s new book The Coming Race War and it is fabulous. Also he "tells it like
it is" and mentions names of hate mongers like Newt Gingrich, Rush Limbaugh, Gordon
Liddy, Oliver North, etc. But it is a joy to read because it corroborates everything I
feel. He also has a section on the OJ case that is one of the best explanation I have
seen. —Trille
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