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From: 5lee
Date: 9/3/2005
Time: 11:02:42 PM
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From: JUnot
Date: 6/20/03
Time: 7:17:22 PM
Remote User:
accidentaly hit the 'post' button too soon.
Jasper wrote:
[snip]
I’m taking up this much space with your “Freudian slip” note only because of the emphases YOU place on race in evaluating my motives for considering Fuhrman as a murder suspect...."
I just finished scanning through 'Iago' and am planning a detailed criticism of your overall theory. I'll leave the subject of your motivation for then.
"...It never seems to occur to you how much your theory of Kato’s guilt rests on discrepancies between his testimony and Fuhrman’s...."
Now, that IS an interesting insight. I have to deal with it for the simple reason that it's precisely the type of thing I couldn't see by myself in myself.
"..Where they differ, you see evidence that KATO lied...."
Okay, just exactly where do they differ?
"...You use Fuhrman’s word as gospel..."
Firned, I do not take even the Bible's word as 'gospel', let alone Mark Fuhrman,
...to support your thesis. Kato’s story of the thumps led Fuhrman to the glove that you say Kato planted (still looking for why Kato let Park see him)..."
Huh? For one thing, I long ago concluded that Kaelin's reason for going down to the south path was to see if OJ was there! You see, like OJ, Kaelin was expecting to find St. John at the front walk, already in, and the limo loaded and ready to go. He was puzzled by the actual situation and so wanted to check on the south path because so much of his plan depended on no one going down there. So, for one thing, he didn't expect to be seen by Park, and for another, he had no reason to avoid being seen by Park, so I don't even understand your objection.
"...Kato manipulated Fuhrman because Kato was so cleaver and Fuhrman was too tired to think straight..."
Where have I ever said anything like that? I HAVE NEVER ASCRIBED EXTRAORDINARY CLEVERNESS OR ABILITIES TO KAELIN. It was Bob August and that ilk that attributed such statements to me. Kaelin was actually incredibly inept; it's just that the people who should have caught him were even more inept.
"... The questions I asked were meant for speculation. But speculation built on speculation is useless. “After al, he also didn't think of the incongruity of reporting both gates closed. He din't bother to move his source of blood drops around to put tailings on them. He kept the Rockinham glove hidden and sealed until the cops showed up, thereby causing it to be questioned due to its wetness.” Where is the evidence that Kato had anything to do with any of these things?.."
The fact that they were done, and that there's no one else that could hve done them.
"...Hard evidence says that Fuhrman had something to do with all of them..."
No, YOUR speculation says Fuhrman had something to do with all of them.
"You speculate that Kato didn’t bang on the wall to make Rachael a better witness because he didn’t think of it and he got away with many sloppy things like that (with no inside knowledge of LAPD murder investigations)..."
Actually, with no idea of how true evidence appears on a crime scene
"..because the police were sloppier...."
'Incompetent' is a better word.
"...than he was. Fuhrman had inside knowledge of how sloppy the police where and put a lot of slop in the process himself. But that doesn’t count..."
It DOES count with me. I have ecetnly pointed out how completely clueless (no pun intended) that it did not occur to fuhrman that Kaelin WANTED [continued after accidental break]
"...You said Kato could have easily hidden the incriminating evidence because he could not account for hours of his time after he finished talking to Rachael at 1:30. That leaves the question of what he did with them BEFORE then?..."
Jasper, he had them beamed up to the Starship Enterprise for safekeeping. What the hell difference does it make? He stashed him in his car. Does saying tht make you happy? (BTW, one of Fuhrman's gripes was that the Rockingham search warrant did not include Kaelin's car.)
"...No telling. Kato hid the shoes and knife SOMEWHERE and washed the clothes (then what did he do with them?)..."
Nothing. he left them in the washing machine to be discovered by the cops. Which they were. And then the cops fucked up AGAIN.
"...He called a cop in another precinct at 10:30..."
Go check Merrin's criminal trial testimony. He was uncertain about exactly when he received the call.
"...(never mind what Rachel said because he told her it was 10:30 when it wasn’t)..."
Yes, exactly. Ferrara's sense of duration has been shown to be so unreliable that I doubt she can tell Sunday from Friday.
"...to give himself a head start..."
No, he called Merrin to find out of the cops had discovered the bodies to give himself a head start.
"...What did he do with the head start? He sat in his room talking to Rachael Ferrara for two hours..."
Or however long. Even that time can be disputed. But I see no point to it. All you seem to be saying so far, Jasper, is that you wouldn't have carried out the murders in the way Kaelin did.
"..Why did Kato plant the glove instead of the knife? (I know you meant to say “knife” while fighting – I also am inclined to believe that the killer didn’t wear the gloves): Kaelin goet some his his own DNA on the shoes and glove while fighting Goldman.”
"Where is the evidence that Kato was “shedding” his DNA? –Jasper "
An unidentified #4 allele found in the Bronco. Four blod hairs found at the murder scene. Where is the evidence that Fuhrman was shedding his DNA? The best YOU have been able to come up with so far is that Fuhrman wore the same size shoes as those worn by the murderer.
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