From: Jasper
Date: 5/3/02
Time: 2:35:53 PM
Rovaan,
The glaring errors you speak of are in Schwab's confusion of east and west and in the fact that I tried to put up the revised maps when I should have been in bed - I put up the same map twice. The system overwrote the last map I intended to put up and the hot spots go nowhere. I didn't notice any of these things until I read your post just now.
Read a little farther back in Schwab's testimony. The street runs on a northwest to southeast angle and Schwab had constant problems orienting himself to questions about east and west. The first time he talked about what he did at the corner of Dorothy and Bundy he said that he crossed over to the west side when he was already on the west side. He noticed his mistake and corrected it.
Q: THAT SIDE OF THE STREET MEANING THE WEST SIDE OF BUNDY?
A: YES. THE WEST SIDE OF BUNDY IS -- IS DARKER -- IS DARKER THAN THE EAST SIDE OF BUNDY, JUST BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE STREET LIGHTS THAT ARE THERE.
Q: SO WHAT HAPPENED AFTER YOU LOOKED AT THE DOG? YOU NOTICED ITS PAWS AND ITS LEGS AND ITS COLLAR?
A: YEAH.
Q: WHAT HAPPENED NEXT?
A: WELL, I WAS -- I WAS CONFUSED, I DIDN'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT TO MAKE OF THE SITUATION, AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE DOG WOULD DO. AT THAT POINT I CROSSED THE STREET. I CROSSED FROM THE EAST SIDE OF BUNDY -- I'M SORRY -- FROM THE WEST SIDE OF BUNDY TO THE EAST SIDE OF BUNDY TO SEE BASICALLY WHAT THE DOG WOULD DO.
The next time he talks about that corner he makes the same mistake he made the first time but failed to correct it. It was clear what he meant by the context in which he said it. That is, he couldn't have crossed over to the west side because that's where he started from, so no one bothered to correct him again. They knew what he meant.
Also, he flagged down the cop after his second encounter with the couple and he and the dog never crossed back to the west side of the street that night.
Q: OKAY. AND YOU SAW THE DOG ON THE CORNER OF DOROTHY AND BUNDY ON THE WEST SIDE?
A: THAT WAS ON THE WEST SIDE, YES.
Q: AND AFTER YOU LOOKED AT THE DOG YOU CROSSED OVER TO THE EAST SIDE?
A: YES.
That's when the dog went into his routine of barking at the paths of the houses on the east side of the street.
Q: DID IT DO THAT AT EVERY HOUSE THAT YOU PASSED?
A: IT DID THAT AT EVERY HOUSE ALONG HERE, (INDICATING), ON THIS SIDE -- ON THIS SIDE OF BUNDY. IT DID THAT AT SEVERAL HOUSES ALONG HERE PRETTY CONSISTENTLY WHEN THERE WAS A PATH THAT LED -- YOU KNOW, THAT LED UP THE STREET. SOMETIMES THERE WERE STEPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND THERE WAS EVEN A WALL, BUT WHEN THERE WAS A SITUATION WITH A PATH LEADING TO A DOOR, IT WOULD BARK DOWN THE PATH.
MS. CLARK: FOR THE RECORD, WHEN THE WITNESS SAID "ALONG HERE," HE WAS POINTING TO THE EAST SIDE OF BUNDY IN THE AREA OF THE TWO ICONS THAT ARE DEPICTED ON THAT SIDE OF THE STREET.
It was after that when he flagged down the cop.
For some reason my system keeps overwriting the correct map with the one for Schwab and Heidstra's normal route and times. When I can get the right one up and all the hot spots working the way I bookmarked them to work all of that will be easy to follow.
As for the time the two dogs were silent. I did not say the dogs were silent between 10:50 and 10:55. I said there were good reasons that Heidstra heard them both and Schwab didn't notice either dog barking until 10:55. I said that the real period of silence for the Akita only had to be about a minute (because of Schwab's faster pace) for the baking to seem continuos for Heidstra and intermittent for Schwab beginning at 10:55. And I noted that Schwab never did notice the barking of the little black dog because he had bigger things on his mind. --Jasper