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From: Jasper
Date: 26 Jun 2000
Time: 13:50:39
Maggie,
The active phrase is, "Marcia says." Compare that to what the record shows and you will see two or three different things.
One of the reasons I added the Rules of Logic link to the home page is because of what Marcia did with the July 6th stipulation to violate those rules and to encourage the violation of them by others from that point on. Look out for all of the fallacies of distraction, especially the complex question, the false dilemma and the slippery slope. Johnson's 11:00 phone call is a slippery slope
Marcia mentioned only one phone number. We can only guess that she was pointing to the record of the 9:37 call or the 10:17 call because there is no record or a 9:40 call from Juditha (a classic Ad Hoc fallacy - Nicole called Mezzaluna to ask about the glasses BECAUSE Juditha called earlier to ask about the glasses). Besides, these were supposed to be Juditha's records, not Nicole's. If there was a 9:40 call to Mezzaluna from Nicole there would not have been enough time (as you pointed out) for Karen and Juditha to do the things Marcia and Juditha said they did before Nicole made the call. We never saw the records and there is a good chance the jury didn't, either, with that stupid Elmo machine they used in court that was so hard for the attorneys and witness to read.
In the challenge to that record, O.J.'s new attorney's found that there were two phone numbers indicated on the GTE record (the complex question fallacy - Marcia was taking about two and pointing to one). From that fact and the fact that it took longer to get to Monarch Bay than the 9:37 call would have permitted Juditha to make from there, O.J.'s new attorneys deduced that the 9:37 record was a fake (a false dilemma fallacy) as well as the 10:40 call. Just because Marcia said BOTH calls were made from the same phone in Monarch Bay doesn't make it so.
The record says that it isn't so. The record says there were two phones. The record says Karen talked to Juditha about the missing glasses shortly before Nicole called TO SPEAK TO RON (it couldn't have been about the glasses because Nicole couldn't have known they were missing) and shortly before Tia Gavin went home. The only clock necessary to put all of that on a reliable timeline was the one that Ron and Tia used to punch out. There was nothing wrong with that clock. There couldn't have been or the employees would have know when to go to work or when to go home and they wouldn't have gotten paid according to the hours they worked. The other clocks weren't really clocks at all and it didn't matter what times they showed as long as they were consistent from day to day.
Marcia had a board on display that only the judge and the attorney's could read. The Johnson challenge tells us that what she said about it had no necessary relationship with what was there. I cannot think of a single reason to believe what Marcia said about where the 9:37 call came from. According to Robert Shapero, the reason for the stipulation was to save time, which suggest that the details weren't important enough to argue about. I know that isn't true. I know that he knew it wasn't true. But his job was not to find the truth. His job was to create reasonable doubt of his client's guilt. It was the State of California's job to find the truth, and you know how interested the State was in doing that. --Jasper