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From: charlie
Date: 3/13/01
Time: 1:51:48 PM
Pat, Zabruder not McGruder. Geez! I KNEW if was wrong but for the life of me I could not think of it.
Also, Rivera had other shows (little half hour shows) on cable and I watched some of them. He spent Many shows on the JFK murder --not just those two. He went to New Orleans (as did his brother who worked on the show). Had secret interviews and other expose' type things.
I wasn't sure if Groden ever got the photos but guessed not. Also, I never thought that he would get them. I thought GR and Petro Man were lying when they said it.
I have read Groden's books and watched him closely and am familiar with his work. What he says makes plenty of sense to me.
I have taken some clues from his books and applied them to the OJ photos (esp the one walking across the field) you can see that the porportions on the body are WAY off.
I am NOT joking when I said the 45 million was a payoff.
AT a Derby Party here (televised) a drunk Vannatter spoke of Rivera to camera while a drunk Rivera (they came together) hung all over several women and was generally a jerk said: "We couldn't have done it without him" over and over (the drunkeness caused the repetition). Couldn't have done what? Frame OJ? Get a guilty verdict in the civil trial? Demonize OJ? Get away without being arrested? What?
I was able to argue Vannatter down on the radio on day here and inform (via email) the host to all of Vannatter's lies on her show and in her book. She planned to have him on again but didn't.
She caught him herself when he said there were no phone records of OJ's calls to Arnelle at the house. She looked stricken (on tv) but didn't challenge him on it.
Vannatter told me Clark chose 10:15 because of the of the barking dog and Kato. He tried to pass that off as the time the dog was heard to start barking but I KNew what he meant. He meant Kato's noise.
He also told me that Kato heard the noise at 10:50. He said it over and over. I explained --harshly--that he was wrong and he told me I was uninformed and needed to read his book. I told him I read his book filled with a bunch of things that are not in the trial or like the testimony in the trial so I sure didn't need to read it AGAIN.
BTW, Vannatter and Rivera (and another year Kato) were guests of Anita Madden the money bags for big drugs in the 80's connected to Mena.
charlie
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